Ugly Is Good?

Posted 10 years ago by Evan Tishuk

I found this post on "My Space: Is 'ghetto' a design choice" interesting mainly because I just finished testing out ma.gnolia.com for a little project we did. Here's the thing, ma.gnolia.com is 1000x better looking than del.cio.us but it's not a better product. In fact, eventhough del.cio.us is ugly as sin, it works better for social bookmarking on so many levels. The main one being it doesn't try to get too cute with the social networking aspects. This probably deserves more space, but it ain't getting it from me right now.

10 Comments

Todd ~ 10 years ago

So, my obvious questions would be what were the ways you found Ma.gnolia lacking, and what were your goals in the first place? Knowing those things might qualify your comment, which really just seems like a difference of intentions.

Evan Tishuk ~ 10 years ago

I haven't really exercised it enough to give a well-thought-out critique, but while I used ma.gnolia I kept wishing the "view all" actually let you view all. Adam has more experience than I, so I'll defer to him for a follow up.

Evan Tishuk ~ 10 years ago

I'll make a better effort to give more constructive feedback over the next few days.

Adam Gautsch ~ 10 years ago

Like I said, it deserves more space but I don't really have the time to get into in any big detail right now.

The short of it.

D offers more of what I want and less of what I don't.

The home page has a bunch of recent bookmarks, popular bookmarks links, and then changing categories.

M. offers stars bookmarks featured bookmarks (who cares what NPR is linking to anymore than what Jim is) advertising, and groups- which I don't really get.

On your bookmark page on d. you get the link name and then some small stuff below you can ignore if you'd like. On M. you get too much stuff.

Evan's right- view all only shows 5 in m. which drives me crazy.

All in all m. just seems too over thought and offers too much. Like I said it deserves more space- I can't offer that space right now.

Todd ~ 10 years ago

Evan’s right- view all only shows 5 in m. which drives me crazy.

5? Maybe you're using a different Ma.gnolia. When I look at it I see 10 bookmarks by default per page in expanded view, and 20 in collapsed view.

It's unfortunate that you dont' have time to give this the 'more space' that it apparently deserves. I'd be interested in knowing what turned you off, if it comes down to anything beyond taste or the way you work, rather than off the cuff and overly generalized statements like 'works better on so many levels'. It just makes you look bad.

Adam Gautsch ~ 10 years ago

Jeez, Todd- calm down big guy. I'm not questioning your manhood here or anything, I like del.icio.us better---such is life. Different people have different taste. I don't feel the need to defend a statement I made on my blog in any more detail than I did.

If you want to call me stupid and say I look bad for not defending my statement more, I can live with that.

Todd ~ 10 years ago

Haha - my manhood is secure, and I don't take it as a slight at all. I'm just curious about where the statement came from. If it's a matter of taste that's totally fine. But the way you worded it sounded like there was a lot more to be said. I'm not calling anyone stupid. I just like to know what's behind their words.

Evan Tishuk ~ 10 years ago

Darn. I was looking forward to a full-blown comment spat.

Todd, if you'd like, I can email you some fresh-squeezed feedback in in lieu of writing a full-blown blog entry, say, this weekend?

Todd ~ 10 years ago

Someday comments will evolve to the point where everyone on a thread can just jump into a Quake arena. In seriousness, whatever you have time to write about would be appreciated. I'm also easy to find on IM or skype (email for those details). Cheers.

Adam Gautsch ~ 10 years ago

Now- if you are challenging me to a game of Quake- it is on my friend. Of course it has to be Quake 2 as I haven't played much since those days and you will have to give me 2 weeks to practice.

But then it is on.

Either that or I will outsource the actual game play to Keith-o (aka: Negative) and you will certainly lose.

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